Faith in the news

[Wosbald]

+JMJ+

latimes DOT com/california/story/2024-05-19/newsom-walks-away-from-the-vatican-with-popes-approval-on-death-penalty

Curious as to why Francis doesn't see abortion as a death penalty?

After following the Pope's magisterial breadcrumbs for the whole of this pontificate, I think it safe to say that he sees right-thinking regarding the Death Penalty as a gateway to right-thought on any-&-all fundamental Human Rights violations. Newsom may not be quite there yet, but orthodoxy on the DP definitely points him in the right direction.

My 2¢.

[Hovannes]

The Babylon Bee delivers
https://youtu.be/nnN1a8nNCwA?si=_Zsrex6fFbNBS5LF

[Hovannes]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/po ... ngNewsSerp

True yet what's happening is different.
Migrants wanted to be Americans.
They waved American flags and took care of each other.
Illegal migrants are apt to wave Palestinian flags. What's up with that?

Venezuela used to be the most advanced country in South America.
No longer.
Chavez opened the Border and gave migrants free stuff
In return they gave Chavez elections by huge majorities while Chavez weaponized the courts and the military against his all his opponents
which gave Chavez absolute power.
Now Venezuela is a cesspool.

Before that, Lebanon was recognized as the Paris of the middle east, then the borders were opened to migrants who bought Shia extremists to the party. There is no sovereign government in Lebanon now---terrorist groups like Hezbollah use the country to launch attacks on Israel and
the Lebanese have been the human shields, and Lebanon, like Venezuela, is a cesspool,

Sounds like a plan of some kind, doesn't it?
I keep waiting for Francis to comment

[Del]

+JMJ+

latimes DOT com/california/story/2024-05-19/newsom-walks-away-from-the-vatican-with-popes-approval-on-death-penalty

Curious as to why Francis doesn't see abortion as a death penalty?

After following the Pope's magisterial breadcrumbs for the whole of this pontificate, I think it safe to say that he sees right-thinking regarding the Death Penalty as a gateway to right-thought on any-&-all fundamental Human Rights violations. Newsom may not be quite there yet, but orthodoxy on the DP definitely points him in the right direction.

My 2¢.

Pope Francis should have said the obvious thing, then:
"If you believe that the lives of guilty convicts are worth preserving (as I do), then we must also regard the lives of innocent children as having great value, deserving our protection. Please govern with equity and justice for all, Mr. Newsom."

[Wosbald]

+JMJ+

After following the Pope's magisterial breadcrumbs for the whole of this pontificate, I think it safe to say that he sees right-thinking regarding the Death Penalty as a gateway to right-thought on any-&-all fundamental Human Rights violations. Newsom may not be quite there yet, but orthodoxy on the DP definitely points him in the right direction.

My 2¢.

Pope Francis should have said the obvious thing, then:
"If you believe that the lives of guilty convicts are worth preserving (as I do), then we must also regard the lives of innocent children as having great value, deserving our protection. Please govern with equity and justice for all, Mr. Newsom."

But that would falsify the foundation and logic of the Church's DP teaching. In the Catechetical Revision, opposition to the DP is not portrayed an extension, consequence, or application of the Right to Life — indeed, unlike abortion, nowhere in the Church's tradition does it say that Capital Punishment is intrinsically Unjust. Rather, the constant drumbeat through the ages is that the DP is theoretically Right & Just.

Thus, the Church's teaching as it stands is a quasi-paradoxical juxtaposition of Essential Justness and Existential Inadmissibility.

For the Pope to falsely paint Capital Punishment as a consequence deriving from the Church's teaching on Abortion — as a less serious/lower-tier abortion or "Abortion Lite" — would only discourage people from engaging and contemplating the Church's DP teaching as actually given.

[Del]

+JMJ+

After following the Pope's magisterial breadcrumbs for the whole of this pontificate, I think it safe to say that he sees right-thinking regarding the Death Penalty as a gateway to right-thought on any-&-all fundamental Human Rights violations. Newsom may not be quite there yet, but orthodoxy on the DP definitely points him in the right direction.

My 2¢.

Pope Francis should have said the obvious thing, then:
"If you believe that the lives of guilty convicts are worth preserving (as I do), then we must also regard the lives of innocent children as having great value, deserving our protection. Please govern with equity and justice for all, Mr. Newsom."

But that would falsify the foundation and logic of the Church's DP teaching. In the Catechetical Revision, opposition to the DP is not portrayed an extension, consequence, or application of the Right to Life — indeed, unlike abortion, nowhere in the Church's tradition does it say that Capital Punishment is intrinsically Unjust. Rather, the constant drumbeat through the ages is that the DP is theoretically Right & Just.

Thus, the Church's teaching as it stands is a quasi-paradoxical juxtaposition of Essential Justness and Existential Inadmissibility.

For the Pope to falsely paint Capital Punishment as a consequence deriving from the Church's teaching on Abortion — as a less serious/lower-tier abortion or "Abortion Lite" — would only discourage people from engaging and contemplating the Church's DP teaching as actually given.

Francis should have pope-slapped Newsom on abortion, just as Benedict pope-slapped Pelosi. (Not that the slithy politicians would ever have a change of heart, but for the sakes of the people reading the reports.)

The fundamental principle of Respect for Life guides Church teaching on abortion and capital punishment. Death Penalty should be avoided when possible; abortion must be opposed in all cases.

[Wosbald]

+JMJ+

But that would falsify the foundation and logic of the Church's DP teaching. In the Catechetical Revision, opposition to the DP is not portrayed an extension, consequence, or application of the Right to Life — indeed, unlike abortion, nowhere in the Church's tradition does it say that Capital Punishment is intrinsically Unjust. Rather, the constant drumbeat through the ages is that the DP is theoretically Right & Just.

Thus, the Church's teaching as it stands is a quasi-paradoxical juxtaposition of Essential Justness and Existential Inadmissibility.

For the Pope to falsely paint Capital Punishment as a consequence deriving from the Church's teaching on Abortion — as a less serious/lower-tier abortion or "Abortion Lite" — would only discourage people from engaging and contemplating the Church's DP teaching as actually given.

[…]

The fundamental principle of Respect for Life guides Church teaching on abortion and capital punishment. Death Penalty should be avoided when possible; abortion must be opposed in all cases.

It seems difficult to sustain this reading considering that the Catechetical Revision frames the DP as "Inadmissible in light of the Gospel" — that is, unless the "light of the Gospel" is taken as a mere rule-of-thumb which only applies "when reasonably possible".

[Del]

+JMJ+

The fundamental principle of Respect for Life guides Church teaching on abortion and capital punishment. Death Penalty should be avoided when possible; abortion must be opposed in all cases.

It seems difficult to sustain this reading considering that the Catechetical Revision frames the DP as "Inadmissible in light of the Gospel" — that is, unless the "light of the Gospel" is taken as a mere rule-of-thumb which only applies "when reasonably possible".

Francis's revision of the Catechism is not dogma. It can be re-revised, as needed.

For example, if the collapse of our society advances to the point that we cannot afford to mass-incarcerate violent criminals for the safety and common good of the citizenry -- then we'll be forced to hang violent criminals promptly as was done for centuries of Christendom.

Francis's rule is a good one, but it is only suitable for an age in which mass-incarceration is reasonably possible.

Whereas Newsom's enthusiasm for abortion breaks eternal law and demands eternal justice. As our common pastor, Francis should not have equivocated around that. I fancy that perhaps Francis did mention this, but it was not included in the pro-Democrat news reports.

“It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged.” -- GK Chesterton

[Wosbald]

+JMJ+

It seems difficult to sustain this reading considering that the Catechetical Revision frames the DP as "Inadmissible in light of the Gospel" — that is, unless the "light of the Gospel" is taken as a mere rule-of-thumb which only applies "when reasonably possible".

Francis's revision of the Catechism is not dogma. It can be re-revised, as needed.

[…]

Francis's rule is a good one, but …

[…]

It says "[T]he Church teaches, in the light of the Gospel …" and not "Francis teaches, in the light of his own prudential judgement …".

[Del]

+JMJ+

It seems difficult to sustain this reading considering that the Catechetical Revision frames the DP as "Inadmissible in light of the Gospel" — that is, unless the "light of the Gospel" is taken as a mere rule-of-thumb which only applies "when reasonably possible".

Francis's revision of the Catechism is not dogma. It can be re-revised, as needed.

[…]

Francis's rule is a good one, but …

[…]

It says "[T]he Church teaches, in the light of the Gospel …" and not "Francis teaches, in the light of his own prudential judgement …".

The text has been changed recently, amidst controversy and scandal which Francis (applying some prudential judgment) could have avoided.

The text can be restored. It's just the Catechism... not Scripture or a Council or even a Teaching from the Chair.

Fortunately, our society is currently wealthy enough to comply with Francis's current text. Not everyone can do this, and our own present situation is not guaranteed to last forever.

Meanwhile, America executes upwards of 800,000 innocent children every year. And Catholic politicians like Biden, Pelosi, Newsom and Hochul are pushing taxpayer money to increase and promote the killing -- not to mention the persecution of pro-life activists and Catholics, in general. In the face of this extremism, please show some respect for the resistance.