Trump Criminally Charged

sweetandsour · Post by **sweetandsour** » 04 Jun 2024, 19:13

Hovannes wrote: 04 Jun 2024, 16:05 A "convicted felon" or an incumbent whose too incompetent to stand trial.
Who do you want running around with the nuclear football?

Good question. Basically you have one guy who apparently does what he's told from Day 1, or actually before Day 1 (in the White House). And the other guy that pretty much does whatever he decides that he wants to do.

WRT the so-called "Judicial System", it's broken when it comes to politics and NYC. I don't have the time, space, desire or inclination to expound on that.

Del · Post by **Del** » 05 Jun 2024, 13:24

I'm waiting patiently for the appeals court to review this.

I'm not a lawyer, not even as a hobby, and I don't play one on TV. But it was apparent to everyone following the trial that there were so many errors by the prosecutors and the judge (not to mention corruption of the judicial process), enough to render the trial invalid. It is almost certain that the verdict will be overturned.

As I understand the process, this means that that the charges could be pushed back for the prosecutors to decide if they to want to try it again.

My sincere hope is that the Appeals Court will also rule that the inflated charges (a few misdemeanors expanded into 34 felonies) will be also be demoted to misdemeanors. We shall see.... it will be many months, unless a higher court chooses to expedite this ordeal.

Del · Post by **Del** » 11 Jun 2024, 15:38

sweetandsour · Post by **sweetandsour** » 11 Jun 2024, 20:25

... and now Hunter Biden is criminally charged. It's a sad time now in America, really. DLT and HB both got screwed, IMO. Are we now, what they call a, banana republic?

Del · Post by **Del** » 12 Jun 2024, 05:29

sweetandsour wrote: 11 Jun 2024, 20:25 ... and now Hunter Biden is criminally charged. It's a sad time now in America, really. DLT and HB both got screwed, IMO. Are we now, what they call a, banana republic?

I'm not ready to compare Hunter's situation with Donald's. Apples to oranges.

Hunter committed some really serious crimes (bribery, money laundering, major tax evasion) in addition to the sleazy drugs and hookers and child abandonment. He got such a sweetheart plea deal that was so dripping with favoritism that a federal judge had to deny it.

But I do agree that petty banana republic tyrants like to ignore the crimes and corruption of their families and cronies.
Meanwhile, false and inflated accusations against political opponents are the hallmark of banana republic politics.

I'm fiercely disappointed with Biden (and Obama before him) for introducing these precedents into American politics.

I don't know how Republicans should respond.

I kinda hope that DJT goes through the FBI and the DOJ like Elon Musk cleaned out Twitter.

SlowToke · Post by **SlowToke** » 14 Jun 2024, 20:33

FredS wrote: 04 Jun 2024, 14:58
ChildOfGod wrote: 04 Jun 2024, 14:34 If you lookup "conservative" in a thesaurus you will find one of "conservative's" antonyms is "fanatic". This means that a political conservative cannot be a fan of any political figure. Not my opinion, just English language facts.

In my opinion, the following stems from the above fact...

A conservative has respect for the judicial system.

A fan only respects a judgement in favor of their guy.
I think the judicial system was stood on its ear in this case, but you're right, the system must be respected. Conservatives often said, to liberals - if you don't like the system then change it. Well skippy, they've used their current strength to change it and convict Trump. BS felonies, but felonies nonetheless. By a legit court. I hope Trumpers will consider the message they send to their family by voting for him now. Biden's not the only alternative, and even if he was, is four more years under him better that showing your kids that laws and convictions don't matter?

They didn't change it; they perverted it. Complete rubbish to gaslight everyone who will still vote for Trump as somehow sending a bad message to their families. I suppose Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were disrespecting the judicial system by refusing to worship Nebuchadnezzar too? I'm not saying they are the same thing. I'm just pointing out that, as Christians, we don't blindly follow manmade institutions and rules. We follow what is good according to God's will. Weaponizing, bastardizing, and politicizing our judicial system is in no way good. And to somehow think we should respect what they are doing and act accordingly is abolutely not God's will for us. Of that I am entirely certain. I'm not a fan of Trump by any stretch of the imagination but this Sodom and Gomorrah needs to be burnt to the ground. And for that reason, I will vote for him.

FredS · Post by **FredS** » 16 Jun 2024, 08:12

SlowToke wrote: 14 Jun 2024, 20:33 We follow what is good according to God's will. Weaponizing, bastardizing, and politicizing our judicial system is in no way good. And to somehow think we should respect what they are doing and act accordingly is abolutely not God's will for us. Of that I am entirely certain. I'm not a fan of Trump by any stretch of the imagination but this Sodom and Gomorrah needs to be burnt to the ground. And for that reason, I will vote for him.

How did you come to believe that voting for Trump is good according to God's will?

I think he's a bad man. I think Biden is a bad man. I don't think either stand in God's favor based on the actions they proudly display for all the world to see.

I can't bring myself to pick either one to lead us and I'll waste my vote on someone who hasn't already shown themselves to be evil.

SlowToke · Post by **SlowToke** » 16 Jun 2024, 15:54

FredS wrote: 16 Jun 2024, 08:12
SlowToke wrote: 14 Jun 2024, 20:33 We follow what is good according to God's will. Weaponizing, bastardizing, and politicizing our judicial system is in no way good. And to somehow think we should respect what they are doing and act accordingly is abolutely not God's will for us. Of that I am entirely certain. I'm not a fan of Trump by any stretch of the imagination but this Sodom and Gomorrah needs to be burnt to the ground. And for that reason, I will vote for him.
How did you come to believe that voting for Trump is good according to God's will?

I think he's a bad man. I think Biden is a bad man. I don't think either stand in God's favor based on the actions they proudly display for all the world to see.

I can't bring myself to pick either one to lead us and I'll waste my vote on someone who hasn't already shown themselves to be evil.

What makes you think I believe voting for Trump is good according to God's will?

Del · Post by **Del** » 16 Jun 2024, 16:36

FredS wrote: 16 Jun 2024, 08:12
SlowToke wrote: 14 Jun 2024, 20:33 We follow what is good according to God's will. Weaponizing, bastardizing, and politicizing our judicial system is in no way good. And to somehow think we should respect what they are doing and act accordingly is abolutely not God's will for us. Of that I am entirely certain. I'm not a fan of Trump by any stretch of the imagination but this Sodom and Gomorrah needs to be burnt to the ground. And for that reason, I will vote for him.
How did you come to believe that voting for Trump is good according to God's will?

I think he's a bad man. I think Biden is a bad man. I don't think either stand in God's favor based on the actions they proudly display for all the world to see.

I can't bring myself to pick either one to lead us and I'll waste my vote on someone who hasn't already shown themselves to be evil.

Neither guy is worthy of our admiration, on a personal level. (Trump is a lot more fun to watch, though.) They have layers of sleaze and/or corruption.

Still, our job is to discern which guy will do the better job... or at least, do the least damage. Abdicating that duty is an injustice to our children and grandchildren.

As for "God's will" -- Biden has not yet been a sliver of the chastisement that Americans deserve for our behavior in recent decades. Just a shot across the bow, so to speak. If we don't accomplish a society-wide repentance soon, God would be perfectly good and just to withhold the last of His protection and let us screw ourselves to the wall.

FredS · Post by **FredS** » 17 Jun 2024, 06:10

SlowToke wrote: 16 Jun 2024, 15:54
FredS wrote: 16 Jun 2024, 08:12
SlowToke wrote: 14 Jun 2024, 20:33 We follow what is good according to God's will. Weaponizing, bastardizing, and politicizing our judicial system is in no way good. And to somehow think we should respect what they are doing and act accordingly is abolutely not God's will for us. Of that I am entirely certain. I'm not a fan of Trump by any stretch of the imagination but this Sodom and Gomorrah needs to be burnt to the ground. And for that reason, I will vote for him.
How did you come to believe that voting for Trump is good according to God's will?

I think he's a bad man. I think Biden is a bad man. I don't think either stand in God's favor based on the actions they proudly display for all the world to see.

I can't bring myself to pick either one to lead us and I'll waste my vote on someone who hasn't already shown themselves to be evil.
What makes you think I believe voting for Trump is good according to God's will?

You wrote that you follow what is good according the God's will. Then you wrote a bunch of bad stuff that liberals have done, and that the nation itself has done - this "Sodom and Gomorrah" that needs to be burnt to the ground, presumably according to God's will as was done in the Old Testament. Then you wrap up with "for that reason, I will vote for him [Trump]".

You wrote all of that in the same paragraph so I figured your ending statement was aligned with your opening statement and the stuff in between was there to support your conclusion about the will of God, what it is, and how a vote for Trump is in support of that. Sorry if I connected the dots wrong.